Merry CHRIST-mas?
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what’s with all the christmas bashing. CHRISTmas is about CHRIST, not about presents. NOBODY MAKES U CELEBRATE CHRISTIAN HOLIDAYS!
Why is every other religion allowed to have their holidays .nobody says, hey let’s change hannakuh, cuz i’m not jewish. let’s call it ‘the holiday’ or ‘gift-ikuh’. how come Christians are the only religions that are discriminated against? everyone else is protected in America, even the Muslims??? why is it that in public schools, muslims are allowed to worship, but for Christians it is strictly forbidden?
Have people forgotten the fact that America was founded by Christians? on Christian morals and beliefs. That the whole reason the pilgrims came to America was so that they would be free to worship God?
really, because last time i checked it WAS about Christ, at least up until a few years ago when suddenly it is ‘politically incorrect’…. hence the name CHRIST-mas
i’m not saying it’s bad to give presents on Christmas, i quite enjoy the tradition myself, but that’s not ALL that Christmas is about. that’s what everyone wants to make it about, ONLY presents. the post that got me onto all of this was actually suggesting that we rename it merry giftmas.
what’s with all the christmas bashing. CHRISTmas is about CHRIST, not about presents. NOBODY MAKES U CELEBRATE CHRISTIAN HOLIDAYS!
Why is every other religion allowed to have their holidays .nobody says, hey let’s change hannakuh, cuz i’m not jewish. let’s call it ‘the holiday’ or ‘gift-ikuh’. how come Christians are the only religions that are discriminated against? everyone else is protected in America, even the Muslims??? why is it that in public schools, muslims are allowed to worship, but for Christians it is strictly forbidden?
Have people forgotten the fact that America was founded by Christians? on Christian morals and beliefs. That the whole reason the pilgrims came to America was so that they would be free to worship God?
really, because last time i checked it WAS about Christ, at least up until a few years ago when suddenly it is ‘politically incorrect’…. hence the name CHRIST-mas
i’m not saying it’s bad to give presents on Christmas, i quite enjoy the tradition myself, but that’s not ALL that Christmas is about. that’s what everyone wants to make it about, ONLY presents. the post that got me onto all of this was actually suggesting that we rename it merry giftmas.
so pleas don’t think i’m saying presents and joy on christmas is bad, i’m just saying there’s more to it than that
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No, Christmas is not about Christ. It’s a mid-winter festival which was celebrated for thousands of years before Christianity was even invented.
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You must’ve broken the lock. Get back into your cage while I get a new one.
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christmas is about stealing pre-existing pagan festivals.
CAPITALISTmas is about Capitalism. Why do you have to take the capitalist out of capitalistmas. Most of the free market world BUYS things with MONEY as gifts.
Yes even you.
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Never heard of hannakuh.
Christmas is a celebration with pagan influences, however I supose the message should stay the same. I wonder how many of the christians understand it
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i donno but you’re pretty
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Everyone seems to think they are the only victims in the world.
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You are absolutely correct in my mind. PCism has really gone awry in the US. Keep up the attitude!
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Um. No America was not founded a christian Nation. Reread your history texts. Or find reliable sources.
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I agree,it’s the same in the UK.
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No, actually its not. And no, the pilgrims didn’t come to the US so they were free to worship god, they came so they were free. Stop lying to yourself.
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Amen.
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PRESENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you mean even Muslims? You think you’re better than them? I don’t know what school you go to, but our school makes us read Christian books, and when we refuse, do they care? No! It’s all about brainwashing.
You say that CHRIST-mas is about christ. Well in Ukraine we call it rochdestvo…and that’s simply a birth, yet Ukrainians believe in the same god.
Although,we celebrate it on January 7th…so do you suggest that jesus was born on two different days?
And pilgrims were not christians.
Christianity has many roots includingcatholics, orthodox, etc.
So I think that you should stop trying to brainwash people.
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I’m not celebrating a Christian Holiday. I’m celebrating Christmas, which was celebrated before Mr. Jesus was born, and has been secularised for decades, if not centuries.
If it makes you feel better, I promise not to be all pious or worshipful or anything, and just have a good time.
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Umm…ok.
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you are SO correct. i believe every single word you just said on here and i could not agree with you more. it makes me mad too we cannot pray in schools and can barely say any christian word or words at all. it is not right. i hope you sincerely have a very merry Christmas and a happy new year.
keep your convictions. i am right there with you.
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yeah!
go girl!
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people dont feel the need to fight against things they think are not real. only the real thing poses a threat
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I AGREE!!!!! PEOPLE , IT’S NOT ABOUT GIFTS! CHILD CHRISTIAN CARTOOS DO WE HAVE TO FORCE YOU TO WATCH TO GET THAT!
GOD, WATCH SOME CHARLIE BROWN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! And listen to LINUS!
…yeah. So the trees came from somewhere else. Christmas isn’t about the trees. We didn’t steal christmas from the pagans .. or whatever just because we use trees on christmas.
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Christians are always being ridiculed because well, put it like this: Why is the smart kid in class always bullied?
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Merry Christmas. We are in America and have the right to choose. We have freedom of speech, and a lot of other freedoms. I don’t understand why others just don’t respect others religious beliefs and let it go. I always say Merry Christmas. I don’t shun others for not believing the same as I do, but don’t take my beliefs and try to take them away.
Merry Christmas to you and all your family.
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The whole CHRIST-mas is like a child like thinking but do we pronounce it the same way? Sorry but there are christians whom seem to know it was originated by the Pagans. I pronounce it with the sounding of the male gender’s name Chris-tmas (with the t either silent or low sounding t) not Christ-mas birth of some diety.
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YES….. they Have Forgotten….. and Want to Push CHRISTMAS…… Away!
Well… the Founding FATHERS….. Celebrated Christmas…..!
And…. MOST OF AMERICA….. Celebrates Christmas….!
….. SINCE …. WHEN….. Did… the …. minority ….RULE?
………Never!
LEST US…. CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS……!
Thanks for Asking ! RR
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nobody remembers all that. today it has mutated to something very different. now is what is real to most people. now it is chinese stuff and sparkle lights and the tv message. it is what commerce says it is. not what you want it to be. it is malls, ipods and dvd movies and tv talk show reality and language.
what has religion got to do with it anymore? good for everybody no matter what religion. presents and shopping and fun, fun fun. pump up the economy and buy more stuff.
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uh oh, someone didn’t have their nap today… you need to chill out… is it honestly hurting you that other people can find a reason to be with their families, give gifts, and show love to each other?? one minute you people want everyone to be like you and the next you go crazy because they take part in your holiday… seriously relax
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it is a pagan holiday but i don’t need a specific day to celebrate Christ.
Merry Christmas and may God bless you and yours!
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pagan holiday that the christians stole. has become a secular holiday. now go back under that rock you crawled out from under.
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christmas is not about christ… it was even banned in the UK and early US for a while as a non-christian holiday
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the controversy started in the church! not outside it…
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I’m sick of the Muslims complaining about our religion when they CHOOSE to live over here.
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The idea of Christmas came about when the Roman Catholic Church decided to assimilate pagans into Christianity by turning the pagan winter solstice into celebrating the birth of Christ. In fact Christmas trees come from German pagan traditions. But still it’s about celebrating the birth of Christ but it’s now it’s become so commercialized that it’s just a nice winter holiday but hey I can still celebrate Jesus’ birth and give/receive presents like everyone else.
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Jesus told us it would be this way. By the way it is the Constitutional right for Kids to read their Bible, to Pray, and initiate prayer groups. The problem lies with misinformation, and fear. There have been many cases won over this issue. The school faculty can-not initiate it but the kids can.
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Firstly…christmas is a stolen holiday, like many others. Christmas also means many things to many different people, not just christians. Every religion should be entiltled to their holidays, you still have the right to celebrate christmas however you see fit. I don’t know much about the states, but here in Canada, public schools do not allow ‘worship’ of any kind, which is why i choose to send my children there, so they can concentrate on education, not religion. Religion has no place in education, law, or the workplace. Perhaps since the states has diversified sinice the days of christopher columbus, no one really cares that it was founded by christians anymore?
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Peace…..Christmas IS about Christ and only tied in with the other celebrations/festivals. We can speak up and we should! Perhaps we have been too docile in our faith and all this upheavel will make us more assertive in what is important to our beliefs and what is to be tolerated or not – God Bless You and have a Merry Christmas!! Remember to use tact and manners in your defense of Christ – mas….. orthros
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Christmas is a contraction from Christ’s Mass, which was celebrated after Advent. (Catholics call their church service mass.) When attempting to introduce Christanity into pagan cultures, they discovered there was already a winter festival called Yule. So they kind of eased the natives into Christianity by merging Yule celebrations with Christ’s Mass, since there were many similarities to take advantage of. Eventually people just started saying Christmas because it rolls off the tongue easier, until it was so common it became an actual word. Since the merry gift-giving thing was a lot more fun than a solemn and quiet church service, the idea of celebrating Christmas with presents kind of spread like wildfire. Eventually in the late 1800’s a department store created Santa Claus as a marketing tool, based on the actual historical figure of Saint Nicholas. Santa Claus took on an identity of its own, and sort of got incorporated into the whole Christmas idea.
It’s basically the same thing with Easter and eggs–the Christian holiday got merged with pagan traditions, and the modifications stuck with us until today.
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Why do you celebrate a pagan holiday and try to cover it up by calling it the birth of your god (which, if you look at the Bible, was not in December)?
People don’t celebrate Hanukkah as widely because it isn’t as fun as the Yule celebration. Hanukkah’s reason is quite a bit different than Yule’s. Also, stating happy holidays means EVERYONE’S holiday around the winter solstice, it’s not just trying to make yours appeal to the masses. Stop being selfish.
No one is allowed to do any religious acts if it distracts the classroom. You can pray, just don’t stand up on your desk and scream.
The U.S. was not founded by Christians but by deists. What are the Christian morals, exactly? Stone an adulterous woman to death? Excommunicate anyone who doesn’t donate enough money to churches? Those were sure morals that occurred on our soil. I’m sure you would be just fine sitting back and watching the show if America was founded by Satanists.
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The only reason there is a fight about Jesus being the season is because the Pagans had it first. As for the foundation of America it was built on the backs of slaves.
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Amen…
The reason is because Jesus Christ is the ONLY real threat to Satan and his demons and unsaved, arrogant mankind. They can’t successfully defeat Him, so the arrogant and the unsaved try to dismiss Him, and wipe Him from their daily lives so they will not have to face the fact that they ARE lost. They wrongly believe out of sight out of mind will work. But we KNOW it won’t.
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way to tell it. I completely agree. It just shows you this world is forgetting about Jesus Christ and thinks its childish to believe in him as time goes on. I guess we are all going to have to see in the life after whether this was all one big game or the real thing huh. goodluck my friends.
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That’s a good point I’ve never thought of it that away,But I agree why are Christians dissed aginist. I’m christian and I think (excuse me know) that its wrong and the people who don’t like to say Christmas must only like Christmas for the presents. Jesus is, was, and will always be what Christmas is about.
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Open your eyes and research what information your parents have given you as a kid. Remember they only know what there parents taught them and so forth and so on. Its way past due to stop the illusions.
Christ-opher Columbus is one of the roots of all this evil. when the Indians greeted him he and his men took them as slaves and stole the land….now called America.
Now I’m glad to know the truth. I’m glad i now know Mary didn’t get pregnant by a spirit but she was a ****. I am happy to know these facts as i will make sure my children know what i learned in 2007. This fake holiday was made to keep a certain people in good financial status and it is still working.
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I agree
When the Church decided to celebrate Christ’s birth around the time of the solstice, they gave their celebration a different name. Christmas is no more a celebration of the solstice than Kwanzaa is a celebration of Hanukkah. Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ, yes, pagan traditions made their way into it, yes the date was picked to coincide with a pagan holiday. But the pagan holiday WAS NEVER CALLED CHRISTMAS. Christmas has the name of Christ in it.
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Well I think it is about Christ but he wasnt ever born on Christmas he was born in the spring. Or so the Bible says so. and the holiday was about giving because God gave Jesus to us. But a lot of ppl just like getting presents soo they changed it (i think)
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Finally somebody understands what I have been trying to say for two weeks. Christmas would not even exist without CHRIST. And I have been wondering myself why they aren’t changing Hannukah or all those other holidays that people celebrate around christmastime. That saying He is the reason for the season means Christ. Schools should be made to say the Pledge of Allegiance and say One nation under God. More people should pray too. Muslim schools are out there worshiping whoever it is that they worship at their school, but at my school we are not allowed to say the Pledge of Allegiance. All of a sudden somebody wants to have a fit and trys to change Christmas. Now it’s hard to walk into a store and a clerk tell you Merry Christmas. They want to say Happy Holidays. When someone says that to me, I reply Have a Merry Christmas! I don’t care what they think, I want people to know that I celevrate Christmas. I think that when people are saying Happy Holidays, they are acknowledging all the holidays throughout the year. We are celebrating one holiday and that is CHRISTmas! so I am going to be quiet now that I have said all I wanted to…one more thing though–HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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Choosing to wish people Happy Holidays is not about discriminating against Christians. It is about recognizing that in our multicultural world, you don’t always know whether your coworker or classmate is Christian or not. I work with Catholics, Protestants, Jews and Hindus. I wish hem Happy Holidays. When I am in church, I wish everyone a Merry Christmas. It’s not hard. And it shows love for others, something that is a Christian virtue.
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I think it is because our God is the ALMIGHTY and they know deep down that what he promises in the Bible will happen so they are scared and want him to go away. Well praise God he is forever!!! they think if they sweep Our Lord and his celebration Day (Christmas) under the rug and try to keep US quiet they are out of God’s sight and can’t be punished for their sin’s like Jesus promises. I’m sorry for going on but they make me so mad too. I think yahoo should stop deleting our (Christians) questions just because some pouting non-believing Atheist can’t handle it. They need to stop clicking our questions if all they are going to do is report IT. Merry Christmas
thanks for allowing me to vent!
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Christmas is about Christ, for me.
That the holiday has pagan roots is immaterial, IMO.
I am celebrating the birth of Christ.
I have not noticed any pagans doing the complaining, to be honest.
They are very kind about it. For all I know, they may be flattered that Christians thought enough of thier traditions to adopt some of them.
In the end, does it really matter?
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They gave presents at the Birth of Christ. There was a millioneer many years ago who would give worldly gifts to children. He did this ever year around this time for the Birth of Christ. People saw the great joy in the children and the worshipping of JESUS and saw profit and the parents saw the happiness. The millioneer died a the tradition began. You know your heart stay true. You know it is written the meek shall rule the world. so dont mind those who think there in control. The truth will change whats needed.
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Actually.. America wasn’t founded by christians at all, which it did adapted the bible back in the 1600s
America was founded by Pilgrims fleeing the Crusaders who were enforcing the bible on people, an who ever didn’t adpat to that god was a center of all life.. would die such as burned/crusified/hanged/ be headed..
USA national capital.. Washington D.C. if you ever go there you will see many, many Pagan symbols/statues.. pentagon for instantce in likeness of the pentagram. 5 signs of which pentagram was only claimed heretic/ satanism by the Christians/Catholic..
***the pentagram represents 5 meanings***
Spirit, earth, wind, water, and fire
kinda like the captian planet thing.. but that is what the Pentagram TRULY represented.. Christians just labled it evil…
Other then just the pentagon in the D.C. you have gargoyles another Pagan symbol.. where a gargoyle is to scare evil/bad spirits away..
They have the Pagan goddess of the underworld, on several buildings.. the pagan goddess she was said to be the one who takes people, once they die to the underworld.. where the underworld.. is the after/internal life after death..
Key point here is that Pilgrims brought more pagan ethic to the nation then christian.. which also be in mind the
-Xmas tree- is a pagan symbol.. the tree is supose to bring hope an virtue for ones that keep the tree alive during the vast winter.. because back in the 1600s.. there wasn’t medical/food sources like what we have today..
-Easter Bunny- another Pagan symbol, the rabbit represents life, purity, and rebirth of nature
-Halloween Pumpkin – Pagan symbol represents hope that enough food has been harvested before the long winter starts..
thanksgiving- the day the pilgrims thanked the Indians, was probably the newest of the national traditions in the category.. Just was a holiday to say, once the pilgrims came.. they didn’t in-slave any Indians.. unlike when the british came to America, John Smith.. brought slaves, killed indians, made the Indians slaves.. an what ever else
Oh well then there is Santa Clause, Chris cringal Nicholas? Ol’ Saint nicholas.. which he was a real person, although never a Saint, but gave children toys for Xmas to just give them something to do when they couldn’t go outside in the harsh cold climate.. an people put thought into his belief just like christ.. maybe it is Chrismas??
I don’t know for sure.. but i’ve read the bible an disagree with it.. mainly cause a pagan philosopher back in the 1500s made a bunch of prophecies.. that talked about a massive flood, humanity dieing off an several others things that the bible has.. but the differents is that the bible wasn’t in the same order of the phrophecies the old pagan witch philosopher wrote..
Look at the bibles stories.. they seem like pagan an other scriptures stitched to christianity..
Placeing lambs blood on doors to keep god from killing who ever in the story of moses
-Voodoo witch doctors would place a dead animals blood opun a door to create a sacred feild so that no curses or evil powers could come bestoed on the dweller of the house
The dove in another bible stories, Pagans seldomly used animals in theyre story or folklore to represent stuff.. such as astrology:cancer the crab, leo the lion, taurus the bull, even the easter rabbit..
but all that of how the bible looks like it strips another cultures ethics away… mainly people they were killing the Pagans.. makes me not believe what the bible says.. cause i look at the crusades now.. fighting over jesus.. when it was just too.. KILL OFF THE PAGANS.. to put a jesus sticker on all the pagan ethics..
Thats only what i see an i believe..
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Christmas is actually based on the age-old celebration of the Winter Solstice. Early church fathers usurped the holiday to try to enlist pagans to their new religion. Jesus wasn’t born in December – because we know when the Star appeared. And if you think that Christians are persecuted, think of all the people killed by the church over the thousands of years it has existed because they wouldn’t kowtow to the priests.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Everyone in the world has the right to celebrate their religious holidays – and they’re not ramming them down Christian throats. Why do militant Christians insist on ramming Christmas down everyone else’s?
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I am a Christian, but frankly I don’t think we should be using our time complaining about what our Savior’s birthday celebration is called. WE know what it is for. Therefore we should put the nativity scene in our front yards and say ‘Merry Christmas’ to everyone.
We should act like Christians instead of stirring up contention among the Christians and non- Christians, and I’m sure Christ himself would rather see us visiting the nursing home and taking presents to the needy rather than fussing at things that would restrict people’s free agency.
Merry Christmas!!